Talk of Lufkin

October 21, 2009 3:02 PM | Link to this

They all go to eat at Jack-in-the-Box on the corner of 69 and the loop when they’re done. You can’t park because these inbred redneck idiots park their over-sized trucks and trailers across the rows of parking spaces. Many of these morons come from Houston and Beaumont up here to “mud”. What an infantile mentality. I’m appalled at the sight of the thousands of dollars tied up in each of their fruity little four-wheeling rigs. Law enforcement should land on these retards with both feet.

October 21, 2009 3:13 PM | Link to this

I totally agree with ‘Ben Franklin’. The Sheriff’s Dept needs to get these bumpkins off the road.

By Feed up

October 21, 2009 3:43 PM | Link to this

I know its a problem with them littering an messing up the roads.The redneck idiots you are talking about have the same right to use the parking lot as you do I have the same problem with the bass boats so do we come down on them also. along with the big trucks. And most of those people have came back from alto or jacksonville.And by the way i own one of those fruity little four wheeling rigs. I think yall are just mad because you cant build something like that

October 21, 2009 3:45 PM | Link to this

I disagree completely. They have spent over 8 million dollars in downtown to promote this level of tourism to that area of Lufkin. These “redneck idiots” obviously did not need that level of spending in order for tourism to be promoted here. Instead of spending so much on improving the roads or spending more to incarcerate and prosecute them wouldn’t we have killed 2 birds with one stone to just turn one of the dilapitated structures either in downtown or some of the now vacant property fixing to be scrapped out into one big mud bog and charge admission?

Seems a real waste that capital improvements didn’t manage to drum up the “tourism” that one backwoods unpaved county road did.

October 21, 2009 4:20 PM | Link to this

Everyone has a right to utilize parking. No one has the right to monopolize parking. It’s called courtesy and anyone that takes up ten parking spaces for one vehicle of people have none.

I have no problem with anyone, redneck or otherwise, coming to town spending tourist dollars. I do have a problem with anyone, redneck or otherwise, coming to town and not acting appropriately.

October 21, 2009 4:59 PM | Link to this

I know Ben, I was just providing the dissenting opinion for this one.

Did a good job at it too wouldn’t you say?

Downtown road restructuring - Approx. 2 million dollars.

Pines theatre (acquisitions and restoration costs) - Approx 3 million and counting.

The fact that a giant hole of mud managed to accomplish where these have failed - Priceless.

By Welcome to East Texas

October 21, 2009 5:18 PM | Link to this

Hunting, Mudding, Drinking, Fishing, etc. It seems these are National Pastimes in Texas. No, I am not a Texas native. Since moving here in the early 1990’s, these activities have been as commonplace as football games. These are simply games that most rednecks play; it’s a way of life.

October 21, 2009 5:32 PM | Link to this

Oh, yeah, no doubt CT, you made me stop and think. (haha stop & think would be proud)

WTET, you’re right. These things, as infantile as they may be, are a way of life here in East Texas. I find it amusing that people don’t realize how stunted they are developmentally to engage in such activities. Ever hear of Jesco White? Youtube “The Dancing Outlaw”. Many of our East Texas brethren fit this mold. hahahaha

October 21, 2009 5:51 PM | Link to this

they have the right to do anything want, but i agree they should act right and clean up the mess they make

October 21, 2009 6:01 PM | Link to this

I am much more a fan of the youtube mattress jousting events. Definitely see some olympic potential there.

Sorry to hear about the JITB parking situation. I can hardly afford the budget to eat there these days and as such am not particularly distressed by this particular problem. One thing that I would be interested to know is this some sort of paid sport? I have seen the trucks, trailers and four-wheeler rigging you speak of and I’m just dumbfounded as to where these people are working to afford such amenities?

It is of modest comfort to know that if anything is recession proof it is mudding, drinking and football. The school just acquired quite a few acres themselves, if they would just redefine the legal issues with drinking on campus we could actually do all three in the same place. Change Abe Martin to Redneck Olympic Arena, throw in a few extra events like lawn mower races and a beer can toss that place would pay for itself. It would save the taxpayers millions, literally.

October 21, 2009 6:03 PM | Link to this

You do make me proud, Ben. You too, Concerned. If the highlight of these people’s week is to crawl out of their tripple-wide in Beaumont Texas, jump in their jacked-up pickup truck, & drive all the way to Hudson…just to go “muddin”…there really are some total stupid a## people in this state. When one of these brainless wonders has “a few too many”, & wipes out an innocent family out on Hwy 94, maybe the law will finally pull the plug on this Red Neck play ground.

October 21, 2009 6:12 PM | Link to this

hey shmuck, im from Hudson, dont lump all of us together

October 21, 2009 6:30 PM | Link to this

They have a right to do anything they want? Even when it’s costing the county thousands to clean up the mess? Might want to rethink that liberal tolerance on that one Captain America.

We cannot place all the blame on patrol, the “redneck idiots” outnumber the officers at least 10:1 (probably higher) what are they supposed to do when the powers that be in the county would rather siphon funds to security cameras for the courthouse and a county wide computer upgrade rather than create jobs for real humans in the form of more patrol units.

Don’t get me started on the trailer houses. I am the queen of my singlewide and proud of it. (Hey my taxes went down this year). And besides I would rather they climb out of their triple-wide to go muddin than stay in and procreate.

By loyalone2

October 21, 2009 6:30 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately these “mudding” areas are not only in Angelina county. This is a craze with some “redneck” teenagers too. Of course if the teenager belonged to me and came home with a muddy or torn-up truck I could take care of the situation myself. I certainly wouldn’t need LE. Sorry about all the parking problems, but can we really say who is allowed to park at a public place. What about the RVers? I think CT’s idea is great. Sorry though I won’t be there.

October 21, 2009 6:46 PM | Link to this

concernedtaxpayer your taxes went down because your king in the white house frowns opon people who make a good living and tax the hell out of them

October 21, 2009 7:13 PM | Link to this

This was a mustard and mayonaise conversation. Don’t try to Ketchup.

My taxes went down because mobile homes depreciate (which I have explained on various appraisal district threads many times, want to run with the big boy pants then keep up). The tax on the land that I own went up due to the timber tax increase and property valuations, but was offset by the fact that the value the property went up was not as much as the value of my mobile home went down. It had not as you like to say a damn thing to do with “my King” or anyone else.

You misspoke, in accordance with your previous thoughts everything was Ben’s fault. Thank you Ben for lowering my taxes.

This was a nice break from the political hohum that typically dominates these boards and you want to turn a muddin discussion into an anti-Obama rally? Your age is truly showing.

October 21, 2009 7:26 PM | Link to this

im much more educated than you are, your a liberal who is not welcome in this area and is trying to stab this country in the back

By Feed up

October 21, 2009 7:32 PM | Link to this

Sounds like a bunch of people with nothen else to do but complane about other people.GET A LIFE.

By PainfullyObvious

October 21, 2009 8:35 PM | Link to this

Tearing up public property is a fool’s errand. Anyone who defends these mudders is a low brow white trash knucklehead.
The people defending “mudding” are posting an amazing number of misspelled words and examples of poor grammar.

By U P Yours

October 21, 2009 9:07 PM | Link to this

Painfully Obvious you are so full it.If they are all low brow white trash maybe you need to come out of your card board house and get with them talking like that.

October 22, 2009 5:54 AM | Link to this

‘Real American’, I can promise you that ‘Concernedtaxpayer’ is more than likely a great deal smarter than you. Also, she is no “liberal”. If you had followed her posts on previous topics, you would know this.

You’re way out of your league if you decide to take her on. It would really be in your best interest to grab yourself a 12-pack, a couple of bags of pig skins, and crawl back up in your trailer house. I’m sure there’s a Wheel of Fortune re-run that you would enjoy watching on Dish Network.

By David

October 22, 2009 7:49 AM | Link to this

People wake up. It has nothing to do with the house you live in or who is president. I grew up here and many many years ago we did the same things with our trucks. The sons of Doctors, Lawyers and county officials. I know, I was there. It is wrong to do these things but lots of us did it and yes they need to be stopped and fined just as we should have been. I don’t live in a mobil home, I served my country for 22 years and more over, my wife and I make over 80,000 dollars a year. So where you came from has nothing to do with it.

October 22, 2009 8:31 AM | Link to this

David I think most of us were being just a little humorous in our analogies. I have had the pleasure of speaking with quite a few of these people on several occasions now and know most of them are smart enough to realize that the trailer house modest income stigma “redneck” really wouldn’t be able to afford the tens of thousands of dollars worth of upgrades these trucks often have for their typical teenager.

I certainly missed that memo as a teen in my household. Where were they passing out money for monster trucks? My parents thought it was a better idea for me to go to work and pay the car insurance (which even then was astronomical and took most of my 40 hour a week 4.75 an hour check) on the sedan I was driving.

The sons of doctors, lawyers and county officials. Somewhere in your wisdom you think a doctor, lawyer or county official who dealt with his parenting issues by throwing a kid keys to an oversized noisemaker is going to really be affected by a 500 dollar fine?

For 26,000 in damage that is costing the taxpayers I don’t see how that is near enough at all. Within the city limits of Lufkin they can condemn and knock down a persons home just because they had the lack of means to keep it up. Start seizing a few of those trucks to help the county with that debt and the lesson wouldn’t take 3 generations to be learned.

Where you came from has everything to do with it, we were just feeding into the typical stereotype, but if it is as you say teenage sons of the wealthy if not for where they come from they would have had no means for this sort of automobile purchase. I’m reasonably sure it is a mix of the two with some young adults as well who have yet to reach the age of responsibility. What I don’t understand is even if you bought a used offroad, the souping up would still cost a fortune. Why is it if they all have money for that sort of thing none of them seem to have the funds or inclination to purchase private land for such activities? Or is it just that tearing up public roads makes it that much more fun?

How much fun do you think it would be if the county folk took to driving their John Deere’s through Brook Hollow and Crown Colony?

Stop and Think I have very little interest in addressing Real American as he has left very little doubt in my mind of his purpose for being here. Wheel-of-Fortune rerun? Now that was just plain funny.

October 22, 2009 9:45 AM | Link to this

if only you people knew how powerful i am, i can ruin you

October 22, 2009 10:00 AM | Link to this

We’re all sooooo scared!

What you gonna do…run us down with your “Redneck Special” monster truck?????

By Cori

October 22, 2009 1:00 PM | Link to this

O good grief just have the kids that are doing this help fix the roads they have tore up. Have them acutally repairing this roads on the weekends. Not just walking behind a dump truck shoveling in what looks to be black dirt filling potholes. We all know that doesnt work. It is seriously a waste of money to repair the roads that way. Have those kids get out and do some manual labor I am sure it will be good for them and teach them a lesson.

By Reluctant Lufkinite

October 22, 2009 1:05 PM | Link to this

Just think,I get to move back to this wonderful part of the world! I escaped for several years and now my spouse is dragging me back. Once a person has lived in ‘real’ civilization it is hard to return to a place where everyone thinks they are the “elite” and everyone else is trash. These “mudders” would be prosecuted in most other states,regardless of social status. And why does the air reek of smoke all over East Texas?

By Teenage Redneck!!

October 22, 2009 2:09 PM | Link to this

For all of you who are downing it, why don’t you actually get out there and go muddin’!! Once you experience it you will think of it different, it is a blast!! and on top of that there are plenty of private properties for muddin’ in Angelina County/Lufkin, these people just aren’t smart enough to know where they are, and they just go anywhere they want!!…if you’re smart you can find them! Also, you don’t have to money to go muddin’, cause you don’t need to have lifted trucks, I can go muddin’ in a car you just have to know how to do it!! Thank you!

By Teenage Redneck!!

October 22, 2009 2:10 PM | Link to this

By Hmmmm

October 22, 2009 3:40 PM | Link to this

That what my life has been missing all these years—muddin! My car doesn’t cost enough to maintain without adding some needless wear and tear. I guess if I’d gotten to participate as a young idiot, my life would be fulfilled. LOL!

October 22, 2009 4:25 PM | Link to this

Teenage Redneck:

Sticking one’s finger in a light socket is an electrifying experience, but I think I’ll pass on that, too.

Where do these people get the cash to finance these over-sized toys? Where do these people get the infantile mentality that propagates such foolishness? It takes a real moron to think it’s alright to make as much noise and show their butts as these “mudders” do.

Oh, and “real” American, if you’re so powerful you wouldn’t be wasting your time throwing insults at a bunch of strangers on the internet.

By just shut up

October 22, 2009 5:58 PM | Link to this

If were going to b*** lets b*** about all the load radios, cars an truck that go up and down timberland drive. im setting at the red light and i cant hear myself think because the person right beside me has his radio so load so lets start given them tickets.

By Jackie

October 22, 2009 8:49 PM | Link to this

We went from parking problems at Jack-In-The-Crack, to someone blabbing about his yearly combined salary (not so great, really), to Timberland’s everlasting Boomers. Now, what is the real problem?

For one, the real problem lies in County enforcement and decision-making. Not in the ‘mudders’ bringing their vehicles to the site to sport around. This sport caught on in Louisiana and Florida…and now it seems as though it is a mark of distinction to run around with an ultra-high vehicle with packs of mud sprayed and impacted all over it. So, if the County considers this wanting to be curtailed, so be it. DO IT!

The alternate is for those who are involved in the sport of muddin’, to simply find private land, with egress, to run the trucks around a certain area, designated for this activity. Rent the area out!

The ultimate dangers of these high vehicles on the road are the drivers having impaired vision, and cannot readily see people or children directly in front, or on the vehicles right, or left sides, or close to the rear of the vehicle.

Now come the Boomers. It causes a nuisance. Road distractions at it’s best. Timberland Dive, even when I lived in Lufkin, back in the 90’s, had the same type of thing. The Boomers are, or could be, in a Boomer Club, too. But nevertheless, it is a road nuisance.

What to do…oh, pray tell! Well the City and County officials are not enforcing the situations at all. Their complete lack of interest and obligations are virtually hanging out like the bare a**ed chick at the swimming pool! Lack of law enforcement in both areas here are someday going to create a big mess. Then, another referendum will have to be made. Voting will be done. Too late then, chumps!

People…seems there are many problems in this world today, and handling these minuscule decisions the City and County should be directly able to facilitate, are being ignored.

Parking at Jack? Well, either get additional area for in-out driving such as in a truck stop (if this is feasible), or allocate special areas to park these trailered vehicles.

Man, how comments can fly. What I would like to see, if any County of City vehicles can “make it” through the mud bog!

By Wild Bill

October 23, 2009 8:03 AM | Link to this

Perhaps we should elect concerned taxpayer as comptroller of this fiasco; she’s great with numbers and these figures astound me. Then place stop and think in some type of observation post; he can offer some common sense to these youths, ( no political flim flam, just good advice, ok ? ). And lastly, let Jackie establish residence on this road; she’s been dying to use them thar pistols in property defense. Or you could empty a bucket of nails in the darn hole; four flat tires awaiting an awakener would make for a sobering, morning experience.

October 23, 2009 10:43 AM | Link to this

That’s a good one Wild Bill! As much as those “super swamper” tires cost, a bucket of nails might just cure all of the problems!

By Wild Bill

October 23, 2009 11:09 AM | Link to this

I’m just trying to cleanup a dirty situation.

By Jackie

October 23, 2009 3:39 PM | Link to this

Nails? You need IED’s! The tires would eat nails like I do chili-dogs!

Yes, Wild Bill, I’ve been dying to use those twin Colt’s (.44 mags, by the way), for quite some time on moving targets! Believe me, true…I also own a .9mm Uzi…and I can effectively use that, also! My other armament is a .45 Colt automatic, and one that was ordered through a gun show…a Desert Eagle. The DE is of Israeli manufacture and is .50 caliber.

Now is my golden opportunity!

I think ‘concernedtaxpayer’ has arms, too. Big enough to hold you and kiss you to death! Don’t go near her property if you know what’s good for you.

October 23, 2009 10:18 PM | Link to this

Are you men or mice? You say bucket of nails or IEDs. Think like a woman guys go for the glory with the WMDs. And we let ya’ll dominate football no wonder the teams are overpaid and dull.

Numbers are easy, and I am way better with them than I am with people, but taking into account the mudders blew 26,000 of the county tax base, and the city council as well as county officials have blown several million and intend to blow several million more on unprofitable, unneccessary expansions, improvements, tourist attractions (the name seems to change with the desired contribution) I think the aim may well be a little bit off with this one.

There may well be an easier solution to patrolling, seizing vehicles or even fining these good ol’ boys out to chug a few and have a good time, just put a county wide 3 dollar surcharge on every gallon of gas for vehicles with wheels measuring more than 18 inches. If they can afford to tear up the roads after that, well at least they will have paid for the repairs prior to the trip.

Wild Bill, I think you need to change your screen name to Wyatt Earp, your brand of justice is definitely my style.

Yes Jackie, I can guarantee anyone that wants to wreak havoc upon my land will have to deal with the PMSing mad cow female that lives there.

As far as the kissing and holding, well I’ve managed to run off more than my share of gentleman callers. I’m the Calamity Jane of romance.

By Redneck Observer

October 24, 2009 8:17 AM | Link to this

Muddin’, nose picken’, bull ridin’, Obama hatin’, pickupin’ and Panther obsessin’ defines the culture of Lufkin. Getin’ out of Lufkin is what I would suggest to anyone with a brain and wanting to escaper the rut of this totally redneck culture.

By Wild Bill

October 24, 2009 11:20 AM | Link to this

First, we know where to rent the firepower if we’re going to produce Zombieland 2. Second, ( and I hate being malicious), roofing nails could turn them into some tap-dancing truckers.

By Jackie

October 24, 2009 5:10 PM | Link to this

Heh, heh, heh…’concernedtaxpayer’, paint-balls won’t do anything more than the mud spray has done. What you need, actually, is an Abraham’s tank. Now THAT’S A MUDDER!!! It also carries some powerful punch. And no flat tires, either. The road wheels are solid steel.

Gee, CT’, you are loaded for bear today.

Did your comment also consider dual wheels…as on tractor-trailer vehicles, too? Road use taxes are going up…and YOU will be the cause. Well, if you ARE the Calamity Jane of Romance…well, I best not finish that statement. Heh, heh, heh! I don’t dare to ‘go there’. I’m more mouse than man in this respect.

But, “Calamity” means…”an occurrence inflicting widespread destruction and distress”…want to change that reference, dear? But to “Redneck Observer…your comment directly above is just what I did…and thank you, sir, for the appropriate comment.

Wild Bill…surely you ain’t ‘suggestin….well, maybe the rednecks won’t dare to run their vehicles too much in the crik now. Who knows whats in there with all these suggestions. Someone is bound to react and sneak out there and throw some goodies in the track! Next report, LDN?