Talk of Lufkin

By keith w

August 13, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

The person from the forestry service who made the comment “It came down from Washington” as an excuse is not in a reality world. To come down from Washington meant someone with the Forestry service was pushing this matter in Washington, this is the only way these things come down from Washington. If you do not want us to use the National Forest maybe the taxpayers need to quit paying for the U.S. Forestry Service. PROBLEM SOLVED & SAVE TAXPAYERS MILIONS

By David s.

August 13, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

I think this is just another way for the government to take more of our money, it is bad enough we pay out the yang for food and gas as it is, now we can’t even hunt for food to feed our family. How in the world do you think our ancestors lived? It sure wasn’t standing on a street to hunt!

By Kathy j

August 13, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

If we the general public are not allowed access to the lands we support with our taxes then all vehicles and OHV should be banned from all National Forest. The Forest Service uses ATVs to travel the forest, lets go back to the good old walking the forest. After all just one ATV can destroy thousands of acres of land….. Lets just see how well the Forestry Service appreciates the extended walking involved in using the remote trails in the National Forest.

By Billy C

August 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

What the forest service is doing is creating revenue in there pockets from money collected from fines because they know people are going to hunt the national forest. the big land owners have gotten the amount of money we have to pay for a lease so high that the only place you can hunt is the national forest or open land.If you kill a deer how do they expect you to get it out. they know how you are going to get it out… it will cost you $175.00 for the fine…with the higher prices for a lease and new law that you cant go get a deer on national forest land, what they will bring on themselves is outlaw hunting. and this is comeing from a man that does not even hunt national forrest..

By jeff

August 13, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

they don’t want hunter or other taxpayer in the national forest to see how they have made the national forest in to the national tree farm! they cut down the hardwood to plant pinetree for profit and take food from the animal that depend on it! sound like communism,pure communism

By jeff

August 13, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

they don’t want hunter or other taxpayer in the national forest to see how they have made the national forest in to the national tree farm! they cut down the hardwood to plant pinetree for profit and take food from the animal that depend on it! sound like communism,pure communism

By cowboy

August 13, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

For the last 10 years the Forest Service has gradually eliminated local public interest and concerns from it’s so-called “management”. Timber is no longer being managed on a sustained yield basis and tree mortality is at record levels as sound scientific management has been cast aside to the altar of radical environmentalism and mis-management. The revenue loss is being suffered by local industry workers and taxpayers. Since Bill Clinton, political appointees now run the Agency as environmental radicals are now in charge. The notion that “one ORV can destroy 1000 acres” is more of the same pap we have heard for years from these radicals in the so-called environmental movement.

By Jerry

August 14, 2008 6:53 AM | Link to this

Thank the tree hugging, nut eating environmentals for this problem. Remember, they also don’t want to drill for oil. Good old Environmental Protection Agency. They have no clue as to what goes on in the real world.

By null

August 14, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

The Forestry Service is completely accurate in how badly the ATVs destroy the land and disturb the life there. I own an ATV, and I know how they dig into the ground and destroy the grass, and some of these “hunters” take that opportunity to do wheelies, spin out in the mud, and joy ride out there. Puttering in to retrieve a kill is not as much an issue as the destruction of plant life and soil errosion from the ruts and tearing up of the grasses. I love riding my ATV, but I don’t ride it in areas where I’d like to take a nice hike and enjoy the scenery or wildlife. People are becoming more and more destructive these days and just don’t give a rat’s patoot who or what they hurt.

By Teresa O.

August 14, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

Everyone can belly ache but how did you get your deer out before ATVs? I ride horses in the National Forest. I have seen what the ATVs have done to the roads and trails, you are going to have some that are going to tear up and rut up everything. ATVs were in places that were closed to off road vehicles, this particular road was dangerous in places for horses and alot more so for the ATV. Get yourself a horse or mule to drag your deer out with. Save fuel.

By Veronica Egan

August 15, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

How did grandpa get his deer out of the woods? He walked, rode a horse or hired a packer if he couldn’t do it himself. It was good enough for him. Off road vehicles are a real threat to wildlife habitat and displace every other human use when they are present. They need to be restricted to designated routes, and enforcement and penalties for infractions should be swift and meaningful, not a wrist-slap.

By John Graham

August 27, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

I have mixed emotions about this, 20 years ago I rode a bicycle 2 miles behind a locked forest road gate, managed to get a buck and pulled him the 2 miles out, walked back and got the bicycle, but that was 20 years ago, now with a bad knee I couldn’t do it.. I think there should be a provision for bonafide handicapped people with a doctors note should be able to go into the woods on a ORV up to 50 yards off a numbered forest road.. On the other hand if you are sitting in a really good location, everything is quite, and expectations are high for the big one to walk out, it is maddening to look up and see some one coming on a ORV, there goes the whole hunting trip…